Comments on: Early Reviews of Leviathan at Canada’s Wonderland

By: steve

steve — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:38:11 +0000

"You can't blame B&M too much though because Leviathan is LITERALLY a parking lot coaster – half of it is built into the parking lot so there were some serious space constraints to deal with."

Check out the Coaster Critic's 10th favorite coaster, HADES at Mt. Olympus park (you can take a POV ride on Youtube) and you will see that B+M could have built *under* the parking lot, adding an extra element near the end such as a wicked helix with tons of lateral g-forces.

Its a shame, really, considering how creative they were in having the coaster leap out of the park and making great use of the wooded "island" near the front gate.

Seriously, ride HADES online and see how spectacularly B+M dropped the ball with Leviathan.

~ steve

By: steve

steve — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:24:42 +0000

" Leviathan…is much longer than behemoth."

With all due respect, I must point out that Leviathan is 20 seconds SHORTER than Behemoth. Leviathan is only 50 seconds long (from the point of acceleration at the top of the first hill to the break run) while Behemoth is 1 minute and 10 seconds long.

~ steve

By: John

John — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:16:03 +0000

It is really cool to hear all of the opinions and experiences regarding Leviathan and Behemoth. After making my annual visit to CW yesterday, I was quite impressed with the overall Leviathan experience…theming, awe-factor massiveness and speed.

HOWEVER…I will say that I agree with other comments here about how the ride leaves you wanting more. Don't get me wrong…the drop is simply amazing, the tunnel is so fast that you can easily miss it, and the hammerhead is a cool element. But after that, it does get…well…boring I guess. And I don't really understand the excessively long brake run. I find it underwhelming that you're still so high above the station that you actually slowly descend to the station on the brake run. Simply unacceptable, in my opinion. I rode the second car and the fifth car…I liked both equally and didn't notice a huge difference with either in terms of ride experience.

After making Leviathan my first ride of the day (x2), I was satisfied that I had gotten it out of the way in case I didn't make it back. We then proceeded to Behemoth later in the day. We rode the second car, outside seats. While it is 100 ft shorter in height, the first drop still has that steepness and take-your-breath-away feeling that Leviathan has. The difference between the two monsters is that the "lazy hills" on the Behemoth caused me to ride half of the ride out of my seat. So be careful calling them lazy. While they don't whip you into the air like an Intamin does, they cause a more sustained airtime feeling and I LOVE IT!

So…I give Leviathan a solid 8, but if nothing else, riding Leviathan helped to solidify Behemoth as a 10 in my book! Bigger isn't always better!

By: CoasterCritic

CoasterCritic — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:09:25 +0000

Nice reviews. Those are two B&Ms I'll have to ride some time soon. Thanks for reading!

By: MPM

MPM — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 04:26:07 +0000

Went to Wonderland back in May and although I only got to ride this and Behemoth once each, I'd have to say I prefer Behemoth. I was out of my seat half the time and it seemed like there wasn't a dull or wasted moment. Perhaps the double helix was a tad slow and unexciting but everything else was great; it's right up there with Apollo's Chariot to me. Don't forget Behemoth has that awesome v-shape seating arrangement – why Leviathan does not I have no idea. I give it the edge over Leviathan hands down but you know what…that's just my personal opinion since coasters don't scare me that much and for me airtime > scare thrills. First drop on Leviathan was great but after that…ehhh, whatevs. You can't blame B&M too much though because Leviathan is LITERALLY a parking lot coaster – half of it is built into the parking lot so there were some serious space constraints to deal with.

By: Alex Fahner

Alex Fahner — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:43:02 +0000

This and Behemoth are really tight. But I give Leviathan the edge.

By: The Coaster Critic

The Coaster Critic — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:42:16 +0000

Nice review Gearhart. I'm jealous. I'll have to get up there in the next year or two so I can do all of the Leviathan/Millennium Force and Leviathan/Behemoth comparisons. Thanks for your take!

By: Gearhart

Gearhart — Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:47:07 +0000

Just hit up Canada's Wonderland a couple days ago as my first stop on a east coast coaster tour and although I still prefer MF's first drop, Leviathan's is no slouch. It just seems to keep curving steeper and steeper as you plummet. While the rest of the ride is a bit too short and I wish there were a couple more elements before that incredibly tall brake run, overall I prefered it over MF. It's glass smooth and it seems the only time it doesn't seem like it's screaming like a bat outta hell is when you're floating out of your seat on the two larger camelback's. The sheer speed makes this ride along with great pacing, something I felt was lacking on MF, and was also what elevated it over the much longer airtime machine across the park. I might also add that I didn't fully appreciate the height until I was in line looking up that lift that seemed to stretch on forever. Solid 9 though with a little more added to the course it could've been a 10.

By: delahoussaye

delahoussaye — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:29:07 +0000

Why dose the first drop drop look like its beyond vertical ?

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:33:50 +0000

Dear D,

I offer a review and an opinion. There is no need to say "Don’t listen to this guy". I'm sure you wouldn't like that if I said we shouldn't listen to you.

Also, you should be careful with what you write: by saying "excessive number of low speed lazy hills contributes to Leviathans superb ride" you've essentially contradicted yourself by saying that Leviathan has a number of low speed lazy hills. Its poor grammar but I understand you meant to say that BEHEMOTH is the one with the lazy hills.

Okay, so: having established that we all have the right to an opinion, I will demonstrate to you that Leviathan does not have the leg up on Behemoth.

But before I do, a word about BEHEMOTH's lazy hills: yes, they are low speed lazy hills because B+M built the coaster. If Intamin had built BEHEMOTH, those hills would have been FAST SPEED ejector air-timee hills…!

Now back to LEVIATHAN: the leg up? Really? As far as the first drop goes, you are 100% right. But as Flying Eagle and I have pointed out, Leviathan is TOO SHORT. This big bad Giga Coaster is only ***50 SECONDS LONG*** from the point of acceleration to the brake run.

BEHEMOTH is 1 minutes and 10 seconds long from the point of accerlation to the brake run.

Do the math. The big bad Leviathan is 20 seconds shorter. This sea dragon is missing its tail…. an nice underground helix would have added at least 10 more seconds to the ride and produced some tremendous lateral G-forces.

Millennium Force is one minute+ long and Iron Dragon ( the Giga Coaster in Japan ) is over 2 minutes in length. 50 seconds is pretty lame for the 3rd biggest (complete circuit) coaster on the planet don't you think?

Well, maybe in the future, they will add on to Leviathan and give it the fiersome finale it deserves – instead of the plain flat and exceedingly long brake run it currently has.

Furthermore and finally, BEHEMOTH is the better coaster because of its interaction with the water and lake.

For being a creaure of the water, Leviathan is lacking here – so until they build in some water themeing or shipwrecks around the coaster, Leviathan is thematically inferior to the BEHEMOTH.

Cheers,

steve