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	<title>Comments on: Mt Olympus Announces Looping Wooden Coaster Hades 360</title>
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		<title>By: CoDAce</title>
		<link>http://www.thecoastercritic.com/2012/11/mt-olympus-announces-looping-wooden-coaster-hades-360.html/comment-page-1#comment-19788</link>
		<dc:creator>CoDAce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(changes)
With the progress on this mistake, there have been changes,
The Velkoma boomerang from AA, scrapped in favor for an Intamin Half-Pipe named Poseidon&#039;s Surf (would only be the 3rd in US and 8th in the world) with themed station and have a singe rider line (after my experience at NickU, it&#039;s a must with one of these), and themed cars (of course), would be built where boomerang would have been,
Zeus&#039;s Revenge changed to Wrath of Zeus (everything else would stay the same)
Hades 360 renamed back to Hades and overbank removed for 90 degree bank, complete re-tracking and end lowered would stay, with topper traack added in inversion for safety reasons, Timberliners kept until Rocky Mountain trains are tested to see if they work, if not keep Timberliners (much to my displeasure), crosbar lowered if possible,
Euro-Fighter now a will, but the design/concept is torn between two different design ideas; the first is a &#039;standard&#039; Eeuro-Fighter with 100 degree drop (this would stay the same), BUT would drop into an underwater tunnel (this one would be called Poseidon’s Plunge), and the layout would be fast paced and twisted (somewhere between 4-6 inverts), trains would have the new lap bars,
The other idea is a themed experience like SAW and Mystery Mine called Fall of Atlantis, the trains would be the same here, but there’d be a launch and an indoor section with special effects, themed after, of course, the fall of Atlantis, there’d be a barrel roll inside and dark (like SAW), and have somewhere between 5-8 inverts WITH possibly the Smiler’s fun house thing, used for rocking during the indoor sequence (like waves rocking a boat), Rock Bottom Plunge confirmed this for me, taking the #3 spot BTW
B&amp;M Mega named Apollo’s Flight; now this might not happen, but if it would, or likely Golaith (SFoG) or Raging Bull wins me over somehow (if I ever get out to those parks this summer that is), it would feature the standard (non V) B&amp;M hyper trains and be anywhere from 150-200+ ft tall and run along the path towards the waterpark (which I’d run a tire tram system between BTW since the walk is BRUTAL) and overbank at the turnaround and possibly pull a Thunder Dolphin (running along the rooftops of the stands along the way if possible, all depends on structural integrity), but not meander there with a possible dive into one of the buildings, with either a possible low-level figure-8 finish with water fountains or a helix finish with similar water effects,
Possibly a large family steel coaster that would go through the support structures of the 3 woodies and have a close fly-over with the new river rapids ride, but this ride would be very unlikely, but not completely out of the question, you can thank Pepsi Orange Streak for that,
Though the land for all of this wouldn’t be there right away, I’d see if I didn’t own the land to the far back, I’d see if I could make out a deal so that the Euro-Fighter, and the stations for Apollo’s Flight, River Stix (the rapids ride), and Atlantis Plunge (the MACK watercoaster) could fit there with some flat rides there as well, which the park lacks BIG time,
But overall, if anyone else fully reads this, what are your thoughts on what I’d do, I’m all for constructive criticism on this idea,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(changes)<br />
With the progress on this mistake, there have been changes,<br />
The Velkoma boomerang from AA, scrapped in favor for an Intamin Half-Pipe named Poseidon&#8217;s Surf (would only be the 3rd in US and 8th in the world) with themed station and have a singe rider line (after my experience at NickU, it&#8217;s a must with one of these), and themed cars (of course), would be built where boomerang would have been,<br />
Zeus&#8217;s Revenge changed to Wrath of Zeus (everything else would stay the same)<br />
Hades 360 renamed back to Hades and overbank removed for 90 degree bank, complete re-tracking and end lowered would stay, with topper traack added in inversion for safety reasons, Timberliners kept until Rocky Mountain trains are tested to see if they work, if not keep Timberliners (much to my displeasure), crosbar lowered if possible,<br />
Euro-Fighter now a will, but the design/concept is torn between two different design ideas; the first is a &#8216;standard&#8217; Eeuro-Fighter with 100 degree drop (this would stay the same), BUT would drop into an underwater tunnel (this one would be called Poseidon’s Plunge), and the layout would be fast paced and twisted (somewhere between 4-6 inverts), trains would have the new lap bars,<br />
The other idea is a themed experience like SAW and Mystery Mine called Fall of Atlantis, the trains would be the same here, but there’d be a launch and an indoor section with special effects, themed after, of course, the fall of Atlantis, there’d be a barrel roll inside and dark (like SAW), and have somewhere between 5-8 inverts WITH possibly the Smiler’s fun house thing, used for rocking during the indoor sequence (like waves rocking a boat), Rock Bottom Plunge confirmed this for me, taking the #3 spot BTW<br />
B&amp;M Mega named Apollo’s Flight; now this might not happen, but if it would, or likely Golaith (SFoG) or Raging Bull wins me over somehow (if I ever get out to those parks this summer that is), it would feature the standard (non V) B&amp;M hyper trains and be anywhere from 150-200+ ft tall and run along the path towards the waterpark (which I’d run a tire tram system between BTW since the walk is BRUTAL) and overbank at the turnaround and possibly pull a Thunder Dolphin (running along the rooftops of the stands along the way if possible, all depends on structural integrity), but not meander there with a possible dive into one of the buildings, with either a possible low-level figure-8 finish with water fountains or a helix finish with similar water effects,<br />
Possibly a large family steel coaster that would go through the support structures of the 3 woodies and have a close fly-over with the new river rapids ride, but this ride would be very unlikely, but not completely out of the question, you can thank Pepsi Orange Streak for that,<br />
Though the land for all of this wouldn’t be there right away, I’d see if I didn’t own the land to the far back, I’d see if I could make out a deal so that the Euro-Fighter, and the stations for Apollo’s Flight, River Stix (the rapids ride), and Atlantis Plunge (the MACK watercoaster) could fit there with some flat rides there as well, which the park lacks BIG time,<br />
But overall, if anyone else fully reads this, what are your thoughts on what I’d do, I’m all for constructive criticism on this idea,</p>
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		<title>By: CoDAce</title>
		<link>http://www.thecoastercritic.com/2012/11/mt-olympus-announces-looping-wooden-coaster-hades-360.html/comment-page-1#comment-18932</link>
		<dc:creator>CoDAce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cyclops is still good, the only really rough part is at the bottom of the infamous drop and Pegasus is good, but it&#039;s only a matter of time before they join Zeus and Hades in being pretty much un-rideable, but according to CC Hades review, people have been hurt, broken ribs, 
But i&#039;m glad that I&#039;m not the only one who thinks that this is a bad idea, ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops is still good, the only really rough part is at the bottom of the infamous drop and Pegasus is good, but it&#039;s only a matter of time before they join Zeus and Hades in being pretty much un-rideable, but according to CC Hades review, people have been hurt, broken ribs,<br />
But i&#039;m glad that I&#039;m not the only one who thinks that this is a bad idea, </p>
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		<title>By: linaskye</title>
		<link>http://www.thecoastercritic.com/2012/11/mt-olympus-announces-looping-wooden-coaster-hades-360.html/comment-page-1#comment-18872</link>
		<dc:creator>linaskye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never seen Timberliners or ridden a Gravity Group coaster. 
 
However, I&#039;ve heard the Mt. Olympus poor management thing before, and I&#039;ve heard that their previously brilliant wooden coasters are horrendously rough now. I completely agree with you regarding how crazy and stupid this is, and I am just praying that no one gets hurt and that the coaster is not ruined.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve never seen Timberliners or ridden a Gravity Group coaster. </p>
<p>However, I&#039;ve heard the Mt. Olympus poor management thing before, and I&#039;ve heard that their previously brilliant wooden coasters are horrendously rough now. I completely agree with you regarding how crazy and stupid this is, and I am just praying that no one gets hurt and that the coaster is not ruined.  </p>
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		<title>By: CodAce</title>
		<link>http://www.thecoastercritic.com/2012/11/mt-olympus-announces-looping-wooden-coaster-hades-360.html/comment-page-1#comment-18801</link>
		<dc:creator>CodAce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason why I don&#039;t like the Timberliiners is their style, or should I say lack there of (in my opinion), to me, it&#039;s like they threw style out the window, GCI got it right with the Millennium Flyers (which is why that I&#039;d possibly add them to Hades), which were based off of the old Century Flyer trains, I don&#039;t remember where I read that, and they look great, and in my eyes, look right on a wooden coaster, Timberliners on the other hand, don&#039;t, sure they may improve the ride, but they do it at the expense of style, 
But on a side note, did you read what I would do, because I&#039;d like another opinion on this to see if it&#039;s  good ideas or not, or a mix of both good and bad ideas 
And another thing that I&#039;d possibly add BTW would be a B&amp;M mega coaster that would either be over 200 ft tall or be like a B&amp;M version of the praised Intamin mega lites 
and the GS spinning coaster, it would possibly be a dueling one like Wijas in Germany ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why I don&#039;t like the Timberliiners is their style, or should I say lack there of (in my opinion), to me, it&#039;s like they threw style out the window, GCI got it right with the Millennium Flyers (which is why that I&#039;d possibly add them to Hades), which were based off of the old Century Flyer trains, I don&#039;t remember where I read that, and they look great, and in my eyes, look right on a wooden coaster, Timberliners on the other hand, don&#039;t, sure they may improve the ride, but they do it at the expense of style,<br />
But on a side note, did you read what I would do, because I&#039;d like another opinion on this to see if it&#039;s  good ideas or not, or a mix of both good and bad ideas<br />
And another thing that I&#039;d possibly add BTW would be a B&amp;M mega coaster that would either be over 200 ft tall or be like a B&amp;M version of the praised Intamin mega lites<br />
and the GS spinning coaster, it would possibly be a dueling one like Wijas in Germany </p>
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		<title>By: Gressier Antoine</title>
		<link>http://www.thecoastercritic.com/2012/11/mt-olympus-announces-looping-wooden-coaster-hades-360.html/comment-page-1#comment-17246</link>
		<dc:creator>Gressier Antoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say YES. I think it&#039;s a good thing from GG to make a new part on this coaster. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say YES. I think it&#039;s a good thing from GG to make a new part on this coaster. </p>
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		<title>By: Jms</title>
		<link>http://www.thecoastercritic.com/2012/11/mt-olympus-announces-looping-wooden-coaster-hades-360.html/comment-page-1#comment-17222</link>
		<dc:creator>Jms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now I  want to go back on Hades!!!!!!  I am for sure expecting a smoother ride. Great comeback!&#039; Coaster critic you are right that 2013 will be interesting ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I  want to go back on Hades!!!!!!  I am for sure expecting a smoother ride. Great comeback!&#039; Coaster critic you are right that 2013 will be interesting </p>
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		<title>By: Piedude81</title>
		<link>http://www.thecoastercritic.com/2012/11/mt-olympus-announces-looping-wooden-coaster-hades-360.html/comment-page-1#comment-17209</link>
		<dc:creator>Piedude81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, I&#039;d agree Cyclops was my favorite ride at Mt. Olympus. However like all the rides there, it has a low rider capacity. All of their rides can only ride 1 car at a time and have no holding area for incoming trains. When I rode Hades, I waited about 45 minutes because they can only run one train at a time on a 2 minute (or more) ride. Then when I got on, I was extremely disappointed with the roughness. I would rehab the coasters there that have potential, (especially rides like Zeus and Cyclops, with its amazing valley diving ending). ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I&#039;d agree Cyclops was my favorite ride at Mt. Olympus. However like all the rides there, it has a low rider capacity. All of their rides can only ride 1 car at a time and have no holding area for incoming trains. When I rode Hades, I waited about 45 minutes because they can only run one train at a time on a 2 minute (or more) ride. Then when I got on, I was extremely disappointed with the roughness. I would rehab the coasters there that have potential, (especially rides like Zeus and Cyclops, with its amazing valley diving ending). </p>
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		<title>By: firewalk13</title>
		<link>http://www.thecoastercritic.com/2012/11/mt-olympus-announces-looping-wooden-coaster-hades-360.html/comment-page-1#comment-17196</link>
		<dc:creator>firewalk13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I could get myself there, I&#039;d most definitely be excited for this. However, my first choice if I could ship out and tour some parks next year would be Outlaw Run, and, a previously existing then upgraded coaster like this would be further down the list (behind Iron Rattler too because the terrain there makes me drool a bit). ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I could get myself there, I&#039;d most definitely be excited for this. However, my first choice if I could ship out and tour some parks next year would be Outlaw Run, and, a previously existing then upgraded coaster like this would be further down the list (behind Iron Rattler too because the terrain there makes me drool a bit). </p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://www.thecoastercritic.com/2012/11/mt-olympus-announces-looping-wooden-coaster-hades-360.html/comment-page-1#comment-17180</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I share the rest of your concerns, but not the one about the Timberliners.  I was a skeptic as well, but after experiencing them on Wooden Warrior I am a fan.  It will be interesting to see how they perform on a much larger ride, though. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share the rest of your concerns, but not the one about the Timberliners.  I was a skeptic as well, but after experiencing them on Wooden Warrior I am a fan.  It will be interesting to see how they perform on a much larger ride, though. </p>
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		<title>By: CoasterCritic</title>
		<link>http://www.thecoastercritic.com/2012/11/mt-olympus-announces-looping-wooden-coaster-hades-360.html/comment-page-1#comment-17167</link>
		<dc:creator>CoasterCritic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting point. There&#039;s been that extremely long wooden coaster drought over in the UK. Maybe a looping woodie would really help change the perception over there a bit. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point. There&#039;s been that extremely long wooden coaster drought over in the UK. Maybe a looping woodie would really help change the perception over there a bit. </p>
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